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  • Long Distance (SS1000, BBG, etc.) Discussion, Planning, Etc.

    Blatantly stolen from another forum...of course, since *I* created it, I can take my own idea, right?

    The premise of this thread is to have a place to discuss long distance rides, the planning, tools and preparation needed to be successful from your first SaddleSore 1000, up to the world famous Iron Butt Ride.

    I have no issue if this thread goes off the rails of deleting it - keeping on topic is appreciated!

    EDIT: A gentle reminder that the premise behind this thread is a specific discussion of Long Distance riding. This term has a specific definition for the purposes of this thread.

    Now, a 2000 mile, week long trip is a long ride, no doubt, but if you go "no way, too much!" when reading this...

    http://www.ironbutt.com/about/default.cfm

    ...well, stick around and lurk a bit.

  • #2
    Excellent thought to start this thread........subscribed.
    '12 GL1800 Level 4 & '08 FLHX Darksider #1378

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    • #3
      In the stolen thread, I've been documenting a couple of different rides - and the planning I've been doing for them.

      The first (probably a more certain ride for me...) is a in-state SS1000 ride.

      I've got some plans for in-state BB/BBG rides as well; I'll chat about them in this thread at a later time.

      The SS1000 ride I'd attempt looks like this - or something similar:

      http://goo.gl/maps/w4NCz

      This is roughly 60% Interstate, 40% two-lane highway, with plenty of traffic opportunities that could really mess this up.

      Several 'corner stops' need to be made to verify the corner locations. Google claims a bit over 16 hours; I say 17 would be a leisurely ride - nothing too butt-busting here.


      Now, as I wrote back in August of last year (in the other thread), family stuff is geting in the way for a couple of weeks. About the only thing I'm gonna be able to do for at least a while is plot and plan.

      I still have Bubba1's suggestion (from another thread...a while back) of something like this: do-able at nearly any time of year - mid-to-late October??

      http://goo.gl/maps/SFECA

      So, Google times that out at right around 21 hours. Add at least 45 minutes (7.5 mins * 5 stops) for each leg, there's 22+ hours. 45 minutes to eat<?> at Lum's (now there's a turn around receipt!), fuel (another 8 mins) and head back.

      BBG is a tough nut to crack, it seems and this route - for a first-time attempt - might be as in-the-bag as it can be. After all, Greg Rice used this very stretch of road to do his "Quattro BBG" just a few weeks ago!

      ...but of course, ya gotta "ride the ride" - I know.

      There's kind of a 'golden' time to do an in-state SS here in AZ - that'd be a fun one, and I'm really hoping that mid-October if nothing comes up, but I keep looking toward the east & seeing the bright lights of Junction, TX* as a goal to bust out this BBG.
      Note: The phrase
      'bright lights of Junction, TX'
      is intended to be humor.


      Enough of me rambling on my plans, how about yours?

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      • #4
        I did a SS1000 a few years ago with a group which went from NW Ohio to Charlotte, NC, Greenville, SC, Knoxville and back. It ended up at 1,200 miles in 23 1/2 hours. The 200 "bonus" miles were the result of a calculation mistake by the organizer and he didn't have many friends when we passed the 1,000 mile mark and were still in southern Ohio with 3 hours left to ride.

        I am planning to do a ButtBurner (1500 miles in 36 hours) which based on my experience with the SS1000 should be doable without too much problem. However, I now have a titanium hip and a few extra years under my belt, so maybe tougher than I think.

        I would like to do the BB solo as there are too many complications with a group, especially when the group is mostly small-tank Harley's and old guys with bad night vision, it slows things down. Am thinking of doing all interstate and having 2 routes picked to allow for selecting the best weather route day of the ride.

        The 3 main things I learned on the SS which I will repeat are: hydrate constantly, wear LD underwear and use a couple Walmart auto gel pads.

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        • #5
          I just did a 1280 and a 1150 back to back to do the 50 CC past week with good planning it can be done BUT maintaing the that 7.5 minute splash and dash schedule is a bit hard especiallly if you count when you actually start slowing don on the highway to make the exit,, count on at least several gas pumps to NOT printy out your receipts ,, waiting for an open pump,,occasional pee break,, etc..



          done 4 1000s in 24,, solo and in groups,, solo is easier.. done 3 50CCs same appllies even more so

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          • #6
            Something not mentioned above...I've already done a SS1000, sadly that was four years ago...not had time to get in another one. I got that one ride done in just over 16 hours on a route that could have easily been another 30 minutes or so quicker. This was aride set up in conjuction with the Motorcycle Touring Foundation...great group there!

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            • #7
              A couple of pieces of absolute gold-plated wisdom, courtesy of the file folks at http://www.ironbutt.com

              Iron Butt Association's "Archive of Wisdom" (AOW) Any riding, any distance, the AOW really has some gems.

              http://www.ironbutt.com/tech/aowprintout.cfm

              Over at that 'other' spot of server space on the Interwebz, my buddy Bubba1 would prolifically discuss the benefits of his personal set of gear for maximum comfort during 'warm' temperatures (where 'warm' is into the 90s). A clear and concise article on the subject is (PDF):

              http://www.ironbutt.com/ibmagazine/I..._62-66_Hot.pdf

              There's no theory behind this - this is science at work, boys and girls...you just no need to figure out how to make it work.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by kwthom View Post
                A couple of pieces of absolute gold-plated wisdom, courtesy of the file folks at http://www.ironbutt.com

                Iron Butt Association's "Archive of Wisdom" (AOW) Any riding, any distance, the AOW really has some gems.

                http://www.ironbutt.com/tech/aowprintout.cfm

                Over at that 'other' spot of server space on the Interwebz, my buddy Bubba1 would prolifically discuss the benefits of his personal set of gear for maximum comfort during 'warm' temperatures (where 'warm' is into the 90s). A clear and concise article on the subject is (PDF):

                http://www.ironbutt.com/ibmagazine/I..._62-66_Hot.pdf

                There's no theory behind this - this is science at work, boys and girls...you just no need to figure out how to make it work.
                I second that science from Bubba1. His stuff works when used as directed.

                BTW, I see a quote from Shawshank Redemption in your signature line. Last weekend we had the 20th celebration of its location shooting which was partially filmed in our town (courtroom and workshop scenes). The prison, bank and other locations were shot just east of us in Mansfield, OH. Lots of local folks were extras and this great movie will always be remembered locally.

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                • #9
                  Hopping to do the SS1000 next month going to ride from Palm Bch, Fl to Charleston SC and back 525 miles each way. Will be riding with a buddy we are both truck drivers with lots of miles and experience on the roads. I have been reading a lot from the ironbutt.com have a copy AOW any tips and help from you ironbutt members would be appreciated.
                  2010 Pearl Yellow L3, Double Darksider #856, Ultimate Midrider Seat w Yellow inlays, F4+4 Tinted, Live To Ride, Love my Wing

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Yellowbird View Post
                    any tips and help from you ironbutt members would be appreciated.
                    Be consistant on your riding....do NOT stop for a sit down meal...keep your stops at gas stations to a minimum time...such as 10 minutes...each stop...if you can. But get OFF the bike, walk around, use the bathroom, grab a cold drink/snack, and get back on the bike.

                    Consistancy is the key here. Smooth rolling speeds, slightly more than the normal flow of traffic, do NOT get caught in a cluster of cars/trucks going down the road...advance from one cluster to another...without drawing attention to yourselves. Sit in that saddle from gas stop to gas stop//gas tank load to gas tank load. If all goes well, you should be able to do the 1050 miles in approx. 15 hours. Do NOT make the error of taking advantage of the entire 24 hours available to you on the clock. Spending more time at stops will cause you to become sleepy.

                    Ultimately, use your brain more than your throttle hand. Do what is best for YOU...to complete the ride, but more importantly...to arrive home safely. Do not over-think this very easy ride. It is simply 200 - 225 miles per tank load of gas....stop......go again. Nothing more to it.

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                    • #11
                      What MMR said!,, It works for me Many times successfuly. In addition BECAUSE gas stops can be the killer,, Folks do not realize how much real time gets eaten by them,, the clock actually starts whewn you decide to get off the road. You start lane changing towards the SLOWER right hand lane your speed drops as you approach the ramp,, you start scanning at the end of the ramp for nearest gas station make the decision , right or left or worse you get to end of ramp and sign says gas station is actually a mile down a secondary road. I had an aux tank on last 3 bikes,, that way i could cut number of gas stops by a third. i did not have one on my new bike( CTX1300 but MPG was about 46 so helped a BIT)

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                      • #12
                        To add to what kniterider said.....I now try to make my gas stops at locations where I can SEE the gas station from the highway...rather than making an exit just to see that the directional sign says the gas station is now 3 miles down a side road. Also.....once you get really serious/anal about timing of these stops (and I do NOT recommend getting this anal)...when on a serious ride or rally, some of us will actually hit a timer on the bike....begin our slow down approach to the exit...make the exit, get the gas/pee/drink...get back on the bike, bring the bike back up to the previous speed before taking that exit....once once up to flight speed, then we hit the timer to stop it.

                        Normal IBA riders try to do this in 10 minutes...from highway speed back up to highway speed.
                        Crazy IBA riders try to do it in under 6 minutes. (don't ask me how I know)

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by MMR View Post
                          To add to what kniterider said.....I now try make make my gas stops at locations where I can SEE the gas station from the highway...rather than making an exit just to see that the directional sigh says the gas station is now 3 miles down a side road. Also.....once you get really serious/anal about timing of these stops (and I do NOT recommend getting this anal)...when on a serious ride or rally, some of us will actually hit a timer on the bike....begin our slow down approach to the exit...make the exit, get the gas/pee/drink...get back on the bike, bring the bike back up to the previous speed before taking that exit....once once up to flight speed, then we hit the timer to stop it.

                          Normal IBA riders try to do this in 10 minutes...from highway speed back up to highway speed. Crazy IBA riders try to do it in under 6 minutes. (don't ask me how I know)


                          OOH OOH MR> KOTTER MR> KOTTER I KNOW!!!! I seen the this crazy person and his buddy ride, probably the only pair that i can not assume i can outrun on a 50CC ride

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by kniterider View Post

                            OOH OOH MR> KOTTER MR> KOTTER I KNOW!!!! I seen the this crazy person and his buddy ride, probably the only pair that i can not assume i can outrun on a 50CC ride
                            You might be on to something there....the time that I did the very first 200 CCCCC in the IBA (four times coast to coast), each of my times for the 4 individual coast to coast runs was very close to 32 hours each. I rested at the end of each run...at motels in San Diego or Jacksonville.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by MMR View Post
                              To add to what kniterider said.....I now try make make my gas stops at locations where I can SEE the gas station from the highway...rather than making an exit just to see that the directional sign says the gas station is now 3 miles down a side road.
                              I had this problem on my BBG in Nebraska, and yes it sucks to have this happen!! I did make the time limit though...
                              DS#1146 IBA#55800 50CC,BBG, BB1500 x2, SS2K, SS1Kx3 CERTIFIED ALL DS, PGR RC
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