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  • Doug44
    started a topic My New Wing Was A Quart Low On Oil In 435 Miles

    My New Wing Was A Quart Low On Oil In 435 Miles

    As the headline said I decided to check my oil before leaving on a 2500mi trip. I am sure I checked it the day I brought it home and it was full. Anyway this is serious and I wanted to get the message out here. Plus there is more than one bike in my shop doing it. My bike showed zero oil on the dipstick. The correct procedure in the manual is to warm it up, put it on the center stand, let it sit for 2-5 min and check. In checking the manual states to un screw the dipstick wipe it off insert it back into the engine but don't screw it back in. When I did this NO OIL on the stick. After screwing all the way in NO OIL was showing. I took it to the my dealer who I also work for part time and we started adding oil slowly then checking and it took almost an entire qt to put it on the full mark on the stick. Also at the same time another new 18 tour model was in the shop with a tire pressure monitoring issue. We checked it and no oil showed on that bike with 800 miles on it. We then screwed it all the way in and it showed just a drop on the dip stick so it is also about a quart low.

    We have now drained the oil and filter and everything looks clean no metal shavings etc on the drain plug and inside the filter. The shop have refilled with new oil and a filter and will take off on the trip I have planned but am taking at least one qt of oil and will keep a close eye on it. I normally run 500-600 mi a day so for sure I will check it closely. So please everyone be very careful because this is so out of the norm for us Goldwing owners I have had at least 8-10 wings and never had an issue. My bike has never smoked on start up or going down the road so who knows. I am not 100% sure I checked it after I brought it home the first day or two and the owner of the other bike here in question I asked him if he had checked his and he said no. He also said I own gold wings several of them and don't have to worry. He was as surprised as me !! Maybe they are not getting filled proper at the factory I just can't imagine my bike using this much oil in 435 miles. The Honda rep was due in our shop today to look at the other GL 1800 with tire pressure problems and they are going to talk to him about this oil issue and show him my oil and filter.

  • INTHEWIND
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    You weren't trying to add oil on right side were you?

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  • Doc832
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    Well I rode my bike only a few miles from the dealer and the Oil light was flickering. When I got it home I checked the oil and the stick was dry even after riding. I put in a full quart of oil which took about 20 min to get in do to the very poor design of the filler area. I went on a 60+ mile ride the other day and the oil showed low again. Again I checked it according to the manual and it wasn't on the stick. Added 1/2 quart and it registered. No oil leaks found. just bad QC and design.

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  • GWRider
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    Originally posted by Abitaman View Post
    Had dealer drain about half quart of oil from my 2 week old dct tour. Operations manager said they have been adding oil to all new wings. I suggested retraining staff.
    Time for us to learn how to tear apart and service our own bikes instead of trusting the monkeys at the dealerships.

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  • INTHEWIND
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    Originally posted by Abitaman View Post
    Had dealer drain about half quart of oil from my 2 week old dct tour. Operations manager said they have been adding oil to all new wings. I suggested retraining staff.
    DUMB ASSES.

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  • Abitaman
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    Had dealer drain about half quart of oil from my 2 week old dct tour. Operations manager said they have been adding oil to all new wings. I suggested retraining staff.

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  • Check6
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    I had a long chat with the service manager when I picked up my wing. He takes the time to demonstrate how to check the fluids. That way the customer knows how to do it. And they both verify that the levels are correct on pick up. Simple and effective. I like this guy!
    Ride Safe!
    Mike

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  • Drgsin
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    Originally posted by Brew1 View Post
    Uh I don't think that's your dipstick. IT's on the right side sort of facing up not horizontal..
    hahahahaha

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  • thebroz
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    Originally posted by Brew1 View Post
    Uh I don't think that's your dipstick. IT's on the right side sort of facing up not horizontal..
    You are correct. I've been reading the f-ing manual, and it didn't say anything about the oil filler cap and the dipstick being on opposite sides of the motor... except on page 18...

    My head is hanging in shame...

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  • Brew1
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    Uh I don't think that's your dipstick. IT's on the right side sort of facing up not horizontal..

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  • thebroz
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    What dipstick?
    I expected to find a dipstick attached to the oil filler cap. No such dipstick.

    I've been riding this new 2018 Gold Wing Tour for about a week, with almost 400 miles on the clock. I expected the dealer to go thru a checklist, making sure everything was correct. If the dipstick fell into the motor, that's a bad thing. The dealer should have caught this (and several other) things.

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  • DL3825
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    Just wait till you find out that no one is certified to work on the 2018 Goldwing engines / trans. I live in Southern, California, I've been to 4 dealers, other than what they learn on the internet courses that's it. If they say they are certified to work on the engines have them prove it........Like I did, at 4 and counting.

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  • INTHEWIND
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    Originally posted by vneal View Post
    What about Russia?
    YES..

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  • vneal
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    What about Russia?

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  • Wingman225
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    I too had a low reading on the stick at 800 miles and added approximately 1/4 quart. I found a discussion on another site that recommended warming the engine ON THE CENTER STAND before turning it off. After doing this, the level was overfilled. After draining the 1/4 quart back out, the level was ok. I changed the oil and filter at 2500 miles and refilled with 3.9 quarts (6-speed Tour) as per the owners manual. Again after warming the engine “on the center stand”, the level was on the full mark. I then ran the engine off the center stand, turned it off, and placed the bike on the side stand. After five minutes I placed it on the center stand and the oil level was off the stick. So it appears the oil doesn’t completely drain to the crankcase while on the side stand.

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  • Check6
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    I should be happy. My dealer, Hodag Honda in Rhinelander, WI, Walked me through the oil check process when I took delivery. The warm up, how to check the stick etc. We confirmed the level and reinforced the method. Which is very similar to my Yamaha Roadliner.
    Ride safe!

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  • CJK
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    I just checked my 2018 DCT engine oil.
    First i checked without running the engine and the level was right on the lower mark.
    I let the bike run for a few minutes and checked again immediately after turning off the engine, the oil level was the same, on the lower mark.
    Now waited a few minutes before checking. the level was half way in between both marks.
    The wing is on the center stand.

    Sounds good to me.

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  • Markcuda
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    LOLOLOLOLOL
    Every thing on the internet is true.

  • INTHEWIND
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    Originally posted by JHawk8 View Post
    According to my mechanic this morning, once the engine is warm, if you check too soon, the reading is low. After 3-5 minutes and it’s accurate. The more time after 5 min, the reading will be higher. And yes, dont screw the dip stick in before reading. Note to self: buy stopwatch. 🧐
    Just the opposite.The Longer it sets the lower the reading on the dipstick.

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