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  • Smart Fob Issue

    As a mechanic. I thought of a few issues with the so called Smart fob for the new ST1800.

    Keep in mind. Honda is using a system that no Auto manufacture uses for there push button start cars.
    My cage Fob batteries last at least 2 yrs,depending on how many times I use the vehicle.

    The bike smart key Fob shouldn't be dying in just a few months.


    When was the last time your keyless start car Fob battery died??.


    The first thing would be to simply carry a spare battery in the non-lockable center phone cubby. (Simple enough)


    Then my mechanical mind kicked in and said. What if your FOB battery died, and your back up battery was no good either?? (expired)


    I was reading a story today. Owner was out riding. He notices the Fob battery warning on dash. (He carried no spare battery)

    He stops for fuel. not wanting to kill the engine until he resolves the fob battery issue.

    He can't open the right pocket to "Release" the gas door??.

    He's lucky in that he still has a small amount of fuel left to find a place that has batteries for the fob. (then he can refuel)

    What would of happened if he ran the tank to LOW where he first stopped, and no batteries were available ??

    Out in the middle of nowhere?

    Can't refuel can he? (Can't release the gas door)


    Here is my suggestion. and its really simple to do!!

    I'd drill a hole in the Pocket cover, right above where the gas door release is and insert a black plug in it. (For this type of emergency)

    Should you ever find yourself in a dead fob/spare battery useless too, situation??.

    You pop out the push in plug-- push the gas door release, reinsert the plug, refuel to find a good battery.


    Now you have a redundant simple system, Honda never thought to implement in such a scenario.


    **You may not like the Truth-But that doesn't change it!**
    "Life is Tough-It's tougher when you are stupid"
    1981 CB900C -DCT
    1986 GL1200 SEi - DCT
    2004 GL1800 - "Modified Ring & Pinion"


  • #2
    i like it! Simple. someone mentioned a plunger of some sort too.

    The GW old GWers wish Honda would make.

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    • #3
      Why not use your Smart Key in the Fob and follow the emergency procedures to restart the engine and/or open the compartments? I took a picture of my key code with my phone so I could use that code to get started again.

      That said, I think I would have preferred a regular key like the old units. I always left the key in the bike while parked in the garage. Can’t count all the times I have walked out to the garage to do something only to discover that the &[email protected]# Fob is in the other pair of britches that I’m NOT wearing.

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      • #4
        I thought of a Door jam switch as soon as I saw the bike in person in long beach. (There was no way I was going from easy to a PITA to open the door at a fuel stop!)

        Push a button-the gas door opens. (Honda should of used the same lock type as the bags n trunk. (No Fob - it don't open-nothing more simple-but then we are at the purpose of this thread again-keep it simple!)


        Here is an example of something that could be used.(Plunger type)

        https://www.autozone.com/electrical-...itch/63297_0_0

        **You may not like the Truth-But that doesn't change it!**
        "Life is Tough-It's tougher when you are stupid"
        1981 CB900C -DCT
        1986 GL1200 SEi - DCT
        2004 GL1800 - "Modified Ring & Pinion"

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Rocky View Post
          As a mechanic. I thought of a few issues with the so called Smart fob for the new ST1800.

          Keep in mind. Honda is using a system that no Auto manufacture uses for there push button start cars.
          My cage Fob batteries last at least 2 yrs,depending on how many times I use the vehicle.

          The bike smart key Fob shouldn't be dying in just a few months.


          When was the last time your keyless start car Fob battery died??.


          The first thing would be to simply carry a spare battery in the non-lockable center phone cubby. (Simple enough)


          Then my mechanical mind kicked in and said. What if your FOB battery died, and your back up battery was no good either?? (expired)


          I was reading a story today. Owner was out riding. He notices the Fob battery warning on dash. (He carried no spare battery)

          He stops for fuel. not wanting to kill the engine until he resolves the fob battery issue.

          He can't open the right pocket to "Release" the gas door??.

          He's lucky in that he still has a small amount of fuel left to find a place that has batteries for the fob. (then he can refuel)

          What would of happened if he ran the tank to LOW where he first stopped, and no batteries were available ??

          Out in the middle of nowhere?

          Can't refuel can he? (Can't release the gas door)


          Here is my suggestion. and its really simple to do!!

          I'd drill a hole in the Pocket cover, right above where the gas door release is and insert a black plug in it. (For this type of emergency)

          Should you ever find yourself in a dead fob/spare battery useless too, situation??.

          You pop out the push in plug-- push the gas door release, reinsert the plug, refuel to find a good battery.


          Now you have a redundant simple system, Honda never thought to implement in such a scenario.

          I like it Rocky...That said, easy solution is to keep a spare battery in the phone cubby. (It doesn't lock)
          PGR RIDE CAPTAIN.. UTAH

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          • #6
            Originally posted by INTHEWIND View Post

            I like it Rocky...That said, easy solution is to keep a spare battery in the phone cubby. (It doesn't lock)
            I agree, But you'll have to agree the installation of the Plunger would allow you to just push it to open the gas door all the time. (Never have to open the pocket to fuel up again!)
            **You may not like the Truth-But that doesn't change it!**
            "Life is Tough-It's tougher when you are stupid"
            1981 CB900C -DCT
            1986 GL1200 SEi - DCT
            2004 GL1800 - "Modified Ring & Pinion"

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            • #7
              Great idea, you could tape a replacement battery on the inside of the gas door as the airbag models don"t have the cubby hole

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              • #8
                Originally posted by DL3825 View Post
                Great idea, you could tape a replacement battery on the inside of the gas door as the airbag models don"t have the cubby hole
                Plenty of places to "hide" a battery.
                PGR RIDE CAPTAIN.. UTAH

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Rocky View Post

                  I agree, But you'll have to agree the installation of the Plunger would allow you to just push it to open the gas door all the time. (Never have to open the pocket to fuel up again!)
                  Yes, Exactly. Ive forgotten to close that damn thing too many times. In fact, I dont keep anything in there any longer because of it.

                  The GW old GWers wish Honda would make.

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