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    Today I fired up bike to ride home from work and the HSA (hill start assist ) trouble light came on. The HSA will not activate. I checked brake fluid levels, they are fine. I have just under 4000 miles. Manual says to go to dealer for service. Anyone have similar problem or ideas?

  • #2
    Warranty

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    • #3
      From a search of 1833 problems I found that there is a problem unique to the 6 speed goldwing. It appears that the current solution is to replace the microswitches in in the clutch lever. A service bulletin has not been issued yet. I will stop by dealer Friday on my day off. It appears to be an intermittent problem. Was fine this morning, started acting up this afternoon on ride home.

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      • Jcjdawilson
        Jcjdawilson commented
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        I just bought a new 2018 back in December and am now having the same issue. Did this fix work on your bike? Thanks

    • #4
      Can the assist be turned off, or is it like the ABS, that is there whether you want it or not? I know on my wifes 2014 Jeep Wrangler with manual transmission, we turned off the hill assist the first 50 miles we owned it. If possible to turn off would be best option.

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      • #5
        No, like the ABS it can not be turned off. The clutch switches sort of makes sense because there have been a few times where bike would not start with clutch lever in , had to start in N. A shop manual with wiring diagrams would be nice.

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        • #6
          A shop manual for anything would be nice. Come on Honda, pull your head out.
          PGR RIDE CAPTAIN.. UTAH

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          • #7
            with 8,000 km on my bike, today the light started flashing & stays on....after multiple starts/stops....no change.....stopped by the dealer....they have not heard of this.... contacted Honda Canada, they gave me a claim #, and advised to go back the dealer

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            • #8
              I stopped by dealer to set up appointment to look at flashing HSA. They said they would need bike for a couple of days. I am not hopeful. I tried flushing clutch lever microswitches as suggested on another GL website, no improvement. I will drop off bike and see if they can fix it. I will also file a claim on the Honda website. I did get a call back on my bluetooth complaint.

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              • #9
                I never could get mine to work so today I made a effort to try and activate it. I did get it working but then the dreaded flashing of the HSA started up. Turning the bike off and restarting did clear it but then the next time I started the bike up it started flashing again. I should of let a "sleeping dog lye" it seems. WTF I have rode for 60+ years without. If the thing doesn't flash anymore I am gonna forget it I have it.
                Doug in Decatur, IL K9CRT
                2018 Ardent Red 6spd Manual

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                • #10
                  Originally posted by Doug44 View Post
                  I never could get mine to work so today I made a effort to try and activate it. I did get it working but then the dreaded flashing of the HSA started up. Turning the bike off and restarting did clear it but then the next time I started the bike up it started flashing again. I should of let a "sleeping dog lye" it seems. WTF I have rode for 60+ years without. If the thing doesn't flash anymore I am gonna forget it I have it.
                  do you have the 6 spd or DCT? mine is 6 spd...is this something only happening with 6 spd? could be related to the clutch?

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                  • #11
                    Originally posted by thekid View Post

                    do you have the 6 spd or DCT? mine is 6 spd...is this something only happening with 6 spd? could be related to the clutch?
                    Mine is a 6spd
                    Doug in Decatur, IL K9CRT
                    2018 Ardent Red 6spd Manual

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                    • #12
                      Originally posted by thekid View Post
                      with 8,000 km on my bike, today the light started flashing & stays on....after multiple starts/stops....no change.....stopped by the dealer....they have not heard of this.... contacted Honda Canada, they gave me a claim #, and advised to go back the dealer
                      Seems like this issue pops up after saying yours was working just fine two weeks ago in a thread like this??.

                      https://www.theglforum.com/forum/mot...l-start-assist
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                      1986 GL1200 SEi - DCT
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                      • thekid
                        thekid commented
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                        you are correct....no issues with mine until 2 days ago....today I rode for about 1 mile, just after stopping, it started flashing....on the way home I thought I would play with different riding.....no front brake, very soft rear brake, light stayed off for a least 5 miles....than started using front brake, after 3rd stop with front brake, light started flashing

                    • #13
                      I wont even try to use it. I will consider it "preventative maintenance".

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                      • #14
                        Originally posted by Check6 View Post
                        I wont even try to use it. I will consider it "preventative maintenance".
                        Doug in Decatur, IL K9CRT
                        2018 Ardent Red 6spd Manual

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                        • #15
                          I just bought a 2020 Goldwing Tour with the manual 6 speed and the problem started on my way home!...and I work at the dealer in the parts dept. I talked with our very experienced Gold wing mechanic and said he never heard of this issue. I will show him these posts and see what he thinks along with our service manager.

                          For people who contacted Honda, whay number did you?

                          ...btw this is my first wing and absolutely love it

                          Ron

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                          • #16
                            I guess I don't hold the front brake hard enough on a hill to activate HSA so I've never used it--going to try it today.
                            Found some info in the svc man.

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                            • #17
                              Hill Start Assist (HSA) is incorporated in the recirculation-type C-ABS for easy starting on an uphill. To activate HSA, it is necessary
                              to firmly operate the front brake lever with the motorcycle staying still and the throttle closed. To detect front brake lever operation,
                              a pressure sensor is incorporated in the front brake line of the ABS modulator. When the pressure and the rate of pressure change
                              are above the prescribed level, and the preconditions, (the motorcycle is still, throttle closed, clutch lever pulled in (MT model only))
                              are satisfied, the HSA becomes ready to function . As the HSA functions, the HSA indicator glows, and the motorcycle is
                              automatically held using the rear brake caliper. If the motorcycle stays still for more than three seconds, the HSA indicator goes off
                              after releasing the brake lever. While it is possible to bring the HSA ready to function again after firmly operating the brake lever
                              when the HSA indicator is blinking white, the HSA cannot be restored when the motorcycle is moving, which is outside of the
                              preconditions of HSA functionality. It should also be noted that the HSA is cancelled when the transmission is in neutral, the
                              sidestand is deployed, or the ignition switch is OFF. When the HSA indicator stops blinking, the control of pressure in the brake line
                              is cancelled, causing the motorcycle to gradually move backwards. It is necessary to understand the system by reading the Owner's
                              Manual carefully.

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