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    I have been following a thread on another forum and thought I'd ask here. What is the lean angle of a GL1800? Some of the comments there are funny and some just show outright ignorance. I find my Victory better handling for me than the Wing. Now, don't get your BVD's bunched up, I loved the Wing, just for me this one does me better.
    The good will probably never use all of it on either. The better can probably tell the difference, and the best will make most look goofy no matter what they are riding.
    Just wondering while out exploring alternate routes.

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    Hey enjoy what you straddling! Enjoy what you spend your money on! Glad to know you enjoy your Victory more than the Wing! Not every Motorcycle is right for every person, pretty simple!

    But I will say, there is no chance in hell a Victory will out handle a Honda GL1800. Period. As you eluded to some remarks in your post of " funny, show outright ignorance" The Victory handling better to you may be the truth and cool if it is, but to even hint to the fact that it will handle better than a Goldwing is like the comments you stated above, silly, funny, and ignorant! But in closing, I hope you have tons of miles and smiles on your Victory, ride the wheels off it!

    Oh, I also wear boxers and the really long ones, so they don't get bunched up at all! I am to old let any stupid sh$t about peoples choice of what motorcycle they chose to buy with their own money bother me at all. I have owned em all, like em all and ride many different ones, I may not have the ones I have now by next week! Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
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    I have never thrown a leg over any make or model of motorcycle and had nothing but a good time!!"""""""

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    • #3
      A bike will never handle well if you are not comfortable with it. I glad you found a bike that works for you. So did I and for me, the GL1800 is it.

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      • #4
        Wasn't trying to say one is better, just noted what my personal "feel" was. It wasn't a challenge.
        I just wanted to know some numbers if anyone had them. I was hoping it didn't turn into one over the other, but seemed to in a hurry.

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        • #5
          On 2 wheels for me its a ST1300, more nimble, plenty of power.... really liked the ST1100 even better..... seemed more balanced, many Iron Butt rides on both. Now due to a stroke 3 years ago I'm religated to my GL1800 Roadsmith, nearly as quick but not as nimble but it suits me now!!
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Lostintexas View Post
            Wasn't trying to say one is better, just better for me.
            I just wanted to know some numbers if anyone had them. I was hoping it didn't turn into one over the other, but seemed to in a hurry.
            No, go back and read. I really don't care what a guy rides. I am serious when I say this, just wanted to clarify one important point about the Handling of a Wing first right off the bat. If the Victory handles for you, that is WONDERFUL! I am glad it does for you, enjoy it to utmost! Now if your wanting some bashing, I would imagine it could be found when you go on a Completely different make of Motorcycle and start asking or eluding to about a different make of bike. Are you? As I found your question kind of vague. What are you wanting to ask of us? Here is your closing statement " Just wondering while out exploring alternate routes" Are wanting to know our thoughts of the members here who have switched or came from a Victory? Clarify what your asking would be nice. Again, no ruffles here, so you understand.
            """""""Darksider #10 It's been said by many people, that I am still only 16 years old inside my head!! LOL!!
            I have never thrown a leg over any make or model of motorcycle and had nothing but a good time!!"""""""

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            • #7
              I think the bank sensor stalls the wing at 42 degree. Un plug dat ***** and you got a dead wing lol!
              Birds of a feather flock together

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              • #8
                I've test rode a Victory Cross Country Tour and found it a reasonable cruise but it does not have the capabilities to out lean the GL1800.

                The GL1800 is more like a large sport tourer and can easily keep up with Kawa Concourse, Honda ST1300s, BMW R/ts, etc in the twisties IF ridden aggressively.

                I was unable to find a definite spec for a GL1800 lean angle. I guess Honda doesn't have one.

                But a lean angle is subjective to a riders weight, suspension set up, and cargo weight. Also, speed and roadway conditions may change a lean angle.

                Just ride it until the foot pegs scrape and you will be fine.
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                • #9
                  The number 42 degree has been posted before and this diagram from the shop manual seems to support 42 degrees.

                  I will say that a gl1800 can be slid through a turn on its front engine guards and the engine does not die (i.e., the bank angle sensor didn't kick in).
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by TravelinLite
                    [ATTACH=CONFIG]n12754[/ATTACH] The number 42 degree has been posted before and this diagram from the shop manual seems to support 42 degrees.

                    I will say that a gl1800 can be slid through a turn on its front engine guards and the engine does not die (i.e., the bank angle sensor didn't kick in).
                    [ATTACH=CONFIG]n12751[/ATTACH]
                    yup, my wing must shut off sometime after the crash bars hit. I hope I never find the shut off point, LOL.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Lostintexas View Post
                      I have been following a thread on another forum and thought I'd ask here. What is the lean angle of a GL1800? Some of the comments there are funny and some just show outright ignorance. I find my Victory better handling for me than the Wing. Now, don't get your BVD's bunched up, I loved the Wing, just for me this one does me better.
                      The good will probably never use all of it on either. The better can probably tell the difference, and the best will make most look goofy no matter what they are riding.
                      Just wondering while out exploring alternate routes.
                      Out for a morning s(troll) and I decided that if one leans too far, most of the time bike repair is the result.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Lostintexas View Post
                        I have been following a thread on another forum and thought I'd ask here. What is the lean angle of a GL1800? Some of the comments there are funny and some just show outright ignorance. I find my Victory better handling for me than the Wing. Now, don't get your BVD's bunched up, I loved the Wing, just for me this one does me better.
                        The good will probably never use all of it on either. The better can probably tell the difference, and the best will make most look goofy no matter what they are riding.
                        Just wondering while out exploring alternate routes.
                        Pretty interesting way to put things if you are really serious don't-cha think??

                        Let me tell you how I see your questions. "Who cares what anyone thinks of your motorcycle but You!"

                        What someone else thinks of what I buy isn't one of my concerns when I want something. What pleases me is what I buy.


                        I can tell you that all motorcycles are like people. They each have their own personality. in fact each Goldwing has it's own personality too. If you work on enough wings you'd find this out too.


                        Let me say this "Enjoy what you bought, and if the time comes that you no longer enjoy the bike you are riding,Then trade it for whatever suits you at the moment,"

                        Just enjoy the ride-you paid for it.






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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Lostintexas View Post
                          I find my Victory better handling for me than the Wing. - I loved the Wing, just for me this one does me better. - Just wondering while out exploring alternate routes.
                          Strange thread you start as you sound unsure of what you really like. Is it the Victory or are you still searching and why are you even concerned about lean angle when you do not even ride a Wing at this time? I hope your first 8 posts are more informative than this one.
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                          • #14
                            Hmmm my 2012 Wing was still running when I got forced off the road and it slid on its side over 150 feet down the shoulder.. I had to hobble after it to shut it .. worried about lost oil pressure at that angle,, BUT silly me... did not notice the matching 150 oil slick from the cracked engine case.

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                            • #15

                              This, IMHO, proves that a CT can handle Wing and be ridden aggressive in the turns,





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                              • #16
                                It would seem a few understood the question. 43 degrees.

                                Thanks!!

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by Lostintexas View Post
                                  It would seem a few understood the question. 43 degrees.

                                  Thanks!!
                                  I understood the question and believe it is a valid one. I will be looking at a new bike in the future and before I commit to spending >$20k i want to know I have the best bike available for my style of riding. I went onto the Victory board and asked just about the same question as asked here. Interestingly my question was answered quite well and without any snarky comments to wit: Those who have actually ridden both bikes, or ride with a GL1800 indicated that though the Vision will not handle quite as good as a Wing, it would be at least a viable alternative. In addition, If desired, the horsepower of a vision could be bumped up enough so that in the straights it would out pull the Wing thus equalizing out the differences overall. Every one of the people who commented though did say the Victory is much more comfortable getting to the twisties. These are people who have actual experience riding both bikes.

                                  It does amaze me that a simple honest and relevant question is met with some of the responses here.

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                                  • #18
                                    Is the 43 degrees lean angle stated above a static measurement or a measurement under load and including G-forces of deceleration into a banked curve and possible braking as well?

                                    All this will change the lean angle.

                                    I was under the impression the original poster wanted to know the practical lean angle while riding the MC, not when standing still with no load or other factors involved. I would estimate 40 degrees under normal riding conditions and loading, maybe a little less; but A LOT more then a Victory or a H-D under similar loading.
                                    2006 Titanium Level 3 'Wing with a few 'farkles. From Mesa, Az.
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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by Bug's Zedi View Post

                                      I understood the question and believe it is a valid one. I will be looking at a new bike in the future and before I commit to spending >$20k i want to know I have the best bike available for my style of riding. I went onto the Victory board and asked just about the same question as asked here. Interestingly my question was answered quite well and without any snarky comments to wit: Those who have actually ridden both bikes, or ride with a GL1800 indicated that though the Vision will not handle quite as good as a Wing, it would be at least a viable alternative. In addition, If desired, the horsepower of a vision could be bumped up enough so that in the straights it would out pull the Wing thus equalizing out the differences overall. Every one of the people who commented though did say the Victory is much more comfortable getting to the twisties. These are people who have actual experience riding both bikes.

                                      It does amaze me that a simple honest and relevant question is met with some of the responses here.
                                      I'd really like to see the way you asked the question. I pretty strongly suspect that had you said:

                                      What is the lean angle of a Cross Country Tour? Some of the comments here are funny and some just show outright ignorance. I find my 'Wing better handling for me than any Victory.

                                      You probably would have gotten a snarky comment or two...

                                      The problem with your question wasn't the question, it was the presentation.

                                      Something to think about....
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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by hparsons View Post

                                        I'd really like to see the way you asked the question. I pretty strongly suspect that had you said:

                                        What is the lean angle of a Cross Country Tour? Some of the comments here are funny and some just show outright ignorance. I find my 'Wing better handling for me than any Victory.

                                        You probably would have gotten a snarky comment or two...

                                        The problem with your question wasn't the question, it was the presentation.

                                        Something to think about....

                                        Exactly. I have belonged to a Cummins Diesel Website for over 20 years. Coming on it and telling the members that you changed to a Duramax Chevy and it does this and that better is dealt with nothing but pure vigor and full fledge animosity against such person and they don't hold back, I can say that most Winges are pretty tame and do bite their tongue! It is stupid to go on a specific mfg site and do so. But to come on a completely different mfg site and start telling, is just plain silly. It is the same as Harley comments on a Wing site, and then the Harley lovers say, oh you can go to the Harley site and they won't snide you, they will accept you for your difference! BULLSH&T!!!!

                                        I meant what I said, good for you for what ever you decide to buy, ride or whatever? But don't go crying when your on the competitors site hawking your new found love and you don't get the warm fuzzy reception! That is ridiculous to expect such. There is nothing wrong with the members of the particular site having feelings and such for what the mfg of their machine and on the like mfg site. This Political Correct that we are to accept and love and cherish all ain't gonna happen, never gonna happen, people are different, bikes are different.
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                                        I have never thrown a leg over any make or model of motorcycle and had nothing but a good time!!"""""""

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