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    During one of the last warm days for riding the bikes, a friend and I were filling up our bikes at the gas pumps and the conversation got to talking about CCW and at what distance would one draw and fire. The distances between the gas pump islands is approximately 30ft. There was a seam in the concrete between the pumps and I used that as a reference point for our conversation. The conversation included 30ft. the 21 foot rule, 15ft and less. I also pointed out that the distance could vary to include that of a car/SUV/pick-up length during a traffic dispute.

    You will need to decide at what distance you will allow an attacker to be at for you to draw your weapon and fire when the attacker decides to move towards you. At what distance do you warn the attacker off? If not a knife, maybe a hammer, screwdriver, tire iron or baseball bat is what the attacker has in hand, do you allow the attacker to get closer because it is not a knife? One reason I do not advocate an ankle holster for everyday carry as a go to weapon. Think about it and practice, but know your comfort zone.

    "I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for few public officials." (George Mason, 3 Elliot, Debates at 425-426)

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    • #3
      Thanks. It certainly puts it into perspective.
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      • #4
        It's actually easy:
        Once I fear for my life/well being, I fire. Distance? Depends on totality of circumstances.

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          It's a difficult decision to make. I had a "scary moment" about 2 years after I got my CHL. I had just gotten my new 'Wing about 2 months prior, and was sitting at a Whataburger waiting to get my burger fix. I like their burgers, but they're often slow, and I had 3-4 cars in front of the bike. The bike still had that "brand new" look, and it being dark outside, the ring of fire lights really made it stand out. As I was watching, I noticed 3 late teen or early twenties kids, 2 guys and a girl, playing around with a skateboard at the edge of the parking lot.

          Suddenly, one of the guys starts walking towards me, and fast. He wasn't running, but he was moving pretty fast. If I had been in a car, I probably wouldn't have been overly concerned, but you feel a little more exposed on a bike. I was really surprised at his move, and couldn't think of any reason he'd be approaching me. When he was about 25 feet away, I was already reaching back to draw, when he slowed down and said "That is a really cool looking bike!!"

          I was embarrassed. I hadn't actually drawn, but I had come about as close I could without actually doing so. I thanked him, and we talked about the bike, and he went on his merry way, none the wiser.

          I thought about that a lot in the next few days. I wouldn't have simply drawn and fired, and I like to think I was going to put my hand on the gun and tell him to "stop", giving him a good second or two before I actually drew. I've since decided that is probably going to be how I "plan" on acting in a similar situation.
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            One has to remember that in the vid the officer(s) are drawing from an exposed holster. Considerable more time is needed when one is CCW. That being said the 21ft. rule could be expanded to 30ft. And another factor that plays into it is that as we get older our motor skills slow. Food for thought.
            "I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for few public officials." (George Mason, 3 Elliot, Debates at 425-426)

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              100yds and a good scope.

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