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  • "Left" and "Right" - Political AND Religious

    A friend sent me these verses:

    Remember what Jesus said: "Goats on the left, sheep on the right" (Matthew 25:33).
    Jesus also told Peter that if he wanted to catch fish do it from the right side of the boat. They did and filled the boat with fish. In John 21:6 (NIV) He said, "Throw your net on the right side of the boat and you will find some." When they did, they were unable to haul the net in because of the large number of fish."

    He also said he often wondered why it is that Conservatives are called the "right" and Liberals are called the "left". He said he stumbled upon this verse in the Bible: Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV) - "The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."

    For those of you that don't use the Bible as any sort of guide, here's a Spelling Lesson:

    The last four letters in American...........I Can
    The last four letters in Republican........I Can
    The last four letters in Democrats.........Rats

    End of lesson. The Test is to follow on November 6, 2014.

    Remember, November 2014 is to be set aside as rodent removal month
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    Careful now. You might get the anti___________'s riled up!

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      I don't have a good feeling about this thread
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      • hparsons
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        C'mon now. As "some" would say, all I did was post the facts

      • Wing_it
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        No one can say you don't have a sense of humor Cruiseman

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      Originally posted by hparsons View Post

      The last four letters in American...........I Can
      The last four letters in Republican........I Can
      The last four letters in Democrats.........Rats
      ROTFLMAO :p
      I know that is probably ancient but - a good laugh.
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        Got into a "discussion" with a couple of die hard libs on another forum, we all got the big mod warning. I can tell you, some of those folks are hard core leftists.....

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          There is nothing wrong with different opinions (even if they are wrong ) as long as people discuss/debate the issues rationally and with respect for each other.

          The problem starts when one person runs out of rational arguments and resort to insults. If they come into a discussion with an open mind, its OK to realize when your side may be wrong on some issues. If a person admits the point against their own opinion, they gain credibility and maybe people would listen to them more.
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            That was good hparsons...



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              As azsandrider said, most discussion devolve when one side resorts to name calling and the focus shifts from the topic to the person.

              I always enjoy a good discussion and I have to admit that every once in a while I'm persuaded that my point of view on a specific item needs to be modified. Politics and religion are 2 topics that many people are very passionate about and their passion carries over into their discussion. One of the biggest problems today is when one side of a discussion tries to silence the other side thru calling them racists, or sexists, or that they hate all minorities, instead of realizing that the person disagrees with policy and it has nothing to do with race, sex, national origin or any other "personal" aspect.
              When you can't defend your position, you attack the person!
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                That's a good one Mr. Parsons!
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                  It is interesting that many people can be so passionate about religion or politics, yet have very little factual information to backup their beliefs. It is difficult to debate someone who does not have any factual basis for their beliefs. That is when the debate descends into name-calling and insults. And, I have seen this on both sides of the issues.

                  I, too, enjoy a lively debate, especially about politics. A good debate keeps my mind sharp and forces me to come up with facts and reason for my views. However, many people hold strong beliefs based purely on emotion and not fact.
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                    I have never understood why anyone would bother to debate politics or religion. No beliefs or opinions will be changed. You will have the same results debating a tree.

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                    • micky
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                      +4,695,081, you must of made a wrong turn and wound up in the wrong universe,this ain't the place to make sense(we need some of those little smiley things for the comment section)LOL

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                      It's not like we have a new Goldwing model to complain about.

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                    Originally posted by hparsons View Post
                    A friend sent me these verses:



                    Remember, November 2014 is to be set aside as rodent removal month
                    Rodent removal month?
                    Will there be a dress code ie: pointed white hats?

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                      Originally posted by pearlblue1800 View Post

                      Rodent removal month?
                      Will there be a dress code ie: pointed white hats?
                      Well, the Democratic party has had a few high-level leaders that were members of a group that wore such garb, so you might be on to something...
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                      • #14
                        Originally posted by SneakySnake View Post
                        I have never understood why anyone would bother to debate politics or religion. No beliefs or opinions will be changed. You will have the same results debating a tree.
                        Religion, or better stated our world view and beliefs, determine our political policies which determine the laws under which we live. Everything about our lives is related, ultimately, to first what we believe and second what we do with that belief. To forfeit engaging in debate forfeits any say in what kind of world and laws to we will be subject to live.

                        It has been said that "Freedom is hammered out on the anvil of discussion, dissent and debate. Joseph Joubert said "It is better to have debated a question without settling it than settle a question without debating it. The framers of our constitution knew the importance of debate and the constitution itself was the result of much debate between them. Freedom of speech and of religion, necessary for debate, was part of the first amendment to protect that right for future generations. It was Godly men with who held Godly principles who wrote these words, a simple study of history will require denial of those facts to believe otherwise.

                        Consider this:
                        When Islam is in a position of power, Islamic beliefs are forced on everyone. Christians are being beheaded and tortured.
                        When secular atheism is in power, atheistic beliefs are enforced on everyone. Christians are being fined and put out of business, freedom of religious expression in the public arena is under attack.
                        Only in Christianity has both been given the privilege to believe or disbelieve without any enforcement.

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                          The Democratic Party was vehemently against the abolishment of slavery. It took the Republicans to make slavery illegal.

                          The Democratic Party in the south was against school intergration.

                          Some Democratic Party leaders in the south were either KKK members or sympathetic to the KKK in the 50s & 60s.

                          I wonder why certain minorities support that party?
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                            Originally posted by azsandrider View Post
                            The Democratic Party was vehemently against the abolishment of slavery. It took the Republicans to make slavery illegal.

                            The Democratic Party in the south was against school intergration.

                            Some Democratic Party leaders in the south were either KKK members or sympathetic to the KKK in the 50s & 60s.

                            I wonder why certain minorities support that party?
                            I have always wondered that. Ignorance maybe?

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                              Originally posted by orangecrate View Post

                              I have always wondered that. Ignorance maybe?
                              It's the Public Education (Indoctrination) System.
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                              • orangecrate
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                                I suppose another argument for private/charter schools. When I went to college, the prof had no problem telling it like it is.

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                              . . . and the propaganda media.

                              Was it only a coincidence that when the old USSR collapsed under it's own weight the USSR's official government propaganda machine, Pravda, was reincarnated as the US propaganda media?

                              ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, NBC, NPR, Associated Press, Reuters, et. al. seem to be run by if not the same people, certainly by people with the same positions, methods, and goals.
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                                Public education,welfare,immunity to criminal justice system

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                                  Originally posted by azsandrider View Post
                                  The Democratic Party was vehemently against the abolishment of slavery. It took the Republicans to make slavery illegal.

                                  The Democratic Party in the south was against school intergration.

                                  Some Democratic Party leaders in the south were either KKK members or sympathetic to the KKK in the 50s & 60s.

                                  I wonder why certain minorities support that party?
                                  That's easy, because they are the ones that give away free stuff!

                                  I have always wondered why the left considers it greed when you want to keep more of the money you have earned, but it's not considered greed when you want to take somebody else's money?

                                  Anyone remember Senator Robert Byrd?

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