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    Gotta give her credit and I pretty much agree with everything she says. Click on her web site tells more about her.

    Jan Morgan, Hot Springs, Arkansas is facing controversy after declaring her business a Muslim FREE ZONE Sunday.
    The owner of Gun Cave Indoor Shooting Range in Hot Springs, Ark. has drawn a line in the sand, and while critics will get angry they should read her reasons why.
    After the recent influx of violence perpetuated by self-proclaimed Islamists, Morgan began to study the religion and discovered “109 verses commanding hate, murder and terror against all human beings who refuse to submit or convert to Islam.”

    On her website, Jan Morgan Media, Morgan, an investigative journalist and certified NRA gun instructor, explained that her decision was made based on facts.
    Read her ten-point reasoning that has already provoked controversy: I officially declare my business, The Gun Cave Indoor Shooting Range, a MUSLIM FREE ZONE . . .

    1) The Koran, which I have read and studied thoroughly and (which all muslims align themselves with), contains 109 verses commanding hate, murder and terror against all human beings who refuse to submit or convert to Islam. Read those verses of violence here.

    2) My life has been threatened repeatedly by muslims who are angry that I have studied their koran and have, over the past two years, been exposing the vileness of the Koran and its murderous directives.

    3) * The barbaric act of beheading an innocent American in Oklahoma by a muslim
    * the Boston bombings(by muslims)
    * the Fort Hood mass shooting (by a muslim) that killed 13 people and injured over 30 people
    * and the murder of 3000 innocent people (by muslims) on 9/11
    This is more than enough loss of life on my home soil at the hands of muslims to substantiate my position that muslims can and will follow the directives in their Koran and kill here at home.

    4) Because the nature of my business involves firearms and shooting firearms in an enclosed environment, my patrons are not comfortable being around muslims who align themselves with a religion that clearly commands hate, murder, and violence against all non muslims. Therefore many of my patrons are uncomfortable around Muslims with guns. (can you blame them?)

    5) My range rents and sells guns to my patrons. Why would I want to rent or sell a gun and hand ammunition to someone who aligns himself with a religion that commands him to kill me?

    6) * Muslims, who belong to and, or, support ISIS, are threatening to kill innocent Americans.
    * Muslims, who belong to or support AL Qaeda, are threatening to kill innocent Americans.
    * Muslims who belong to or support HAMAS are threatening to kill innocent Americans.
    See a common thread here?

    7) I not only have the right to refuse service but a RESPONSIBILITY to provide a safe environment for people to shoot and train on firearms. I can and have turned people away if I sense they are under the influence of alcohol or mind altering drugs. I have a federal firearms license…

    The ATF informed us when we received the license that if we feel any reason for concern about selling someone a firearm, even sense that something is not right about an individual, or we are concerned about that persons mental state, even if they pass a background check, we do not have to sell that person a gun.

    In other words, a federal agency has given us this kind of discretion for service based on the nature of the business. I can and have turned people away if I sense an issue with their mental state. So… its difficult to imaginee how the DOJ could have issues with this when ATF gave us this discretion.

    8) I have no way of looking at Islam other than as a theocracy, not a religion. Islam is undoubtedly the union of political, legal, and religious ideologies. In other words law, religion and state are forged together to form what Muslims refer to as “The Nation of Islam.” Once again it is given the sovereign qualities of a nation with clerics in the governing body and Sharia law all in one. This is a Theocracy, not a religion.
    The US Constitution does not protect a theocracy. The 1st Amendment is very specific about protecting the rights of individuals from the government, as it concerns the practice of religions, not theocracies. It clearly differentiates between government and religion. Again protecting the individual’s religious beliefs and practices from (the state) government. In Islam religion and state are one.

    We are a Nation governed by laws, or the law of the land the U.S. Constitution. We are not a Nation that is governed by religion, politicians or clerics.
    How then, can anyone say that, the practice of Islam is protected by the U.S. Constitution?

    The muslim brotherhood has a documented plan for the destruction of America from within, discovered by our own government during a raid of MB operatives in America. In addition, I am very cognizant of the civilization jihad under way in my country by American muslims. In a number of states Muslims, through our legal system, are trying to force us to accept Sharia Law over Constitutional law. I do not wish to do business with people who stand against the Constitution and are fighting to replace it.

    9) Islam allows Muslims to kill their own children, (honor killing) if the behavior of those children embarrasses or dishonors the family name. ( did you know that dating outside of the faith is justification for murdering their daughters and this has already occurred on American soil?) Why would I want people (who believe its okay to murder their own children), be in the presence of other children? My patrons often bring their kids to the range to teach them to shoot. I am responsible for providing a safe environment for those children to learn gun safety and shooting sports.

    10) In the 14 hundred year history of Islam, muslims have murdered over 270 million people. Not all muslims are terrorists, but almost all terrorists in the world
    right now are muslim. Since you can’t determine by visual assessment, which ones will kill you and which ones will not, I am going to go with the line of thought that ANY HUMAN BEING who would either knowingly or unknowingly support a “religion” that commands the murder of all people who refuse to submit or convert to that religion, is not someone I want to know or do business with. I hold adults accountable for the religion they align themselves with.
    In summary, I not only have the right, but a responsibility to provide a safe environment for my customers. I do not believe my decision is religious discrimination because I do not classify islam as a religion.. It is a theocracy/terrorist organization that hides behind the mask of religion in order to achieve its mission of world domination.

    People who shoot at my range come from all religious backgrounds… some are aatheists… I do not care about their religious beliefs. I care about the safety of my customers who come to shoot here. The government allows businesses to ban me from entering their business with my gun because the property owner feels uncomfortable or wants to provide a “safe” environment for their patrons which is in clear violation of my 2nd Amendment right to bear arms, so… I should be ale to deny service to ppeople on the same premise. Can my government really force me to invite someone who had threatened to kill me, into my home or business?

    I will do whatever is necessary to provide a safe environment for my customers, even at the cost of the increased threats and legal problems this decision will likely provoke.

    Jan Morgan- owner / The Gun Cave Indoor Shooting Range

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    I agree with her and hope she prevails, we'll see.
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    • #3
      The liberals will take her business away eventually. Religious discrimination...

      She would have done better by simply wrapping bacon on the door handles to get in....with a sign bacon eaters only above it...(not meant to be a pun)


      Not all Muslims are hateful and should not be ostracized simply because they are Muslim.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by azsandrider View Post
        The liberals will take her business away eventually. Religious discrimination...

        She would have done better by simply wrapping bacon on the door handles to get in....with a sign bacon eaters only above it...(not meant to be a pun)


        Not all Muslims are hateful and should not be ostracized simply because they are Muslim.
        I agree but when you ask a moderate Muslim if they agree with honor killings, beheadings, and such which the Quran advocates they refuse to answer and walk around the question.

        Look at the American Muslims joining ISIS they are being taught this hate in US mosques and it's not being done with out moderates knowing what's going on and their saying nothing.

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        • azsandrider
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          I bet a lot of modern moderate Muslims can't have a public opinion for fear of their lives...

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        azsandrider commented
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        I bet a lot of modern moderate Muslims can't have a public opinion for fear of their lives...


        So true but you have to get a backbone and stand up for yourself sometime. Together they would have the power individually they have none. At some point in time you have to stand up to evil or evil will prevail.

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        • #6
          I admire a woman who stands her ground on her beliefs but good luck on this one in this country.
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          • #7
            She will lose the case in court. However, I agree with her, best of luck.
            "I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for few public officials." (George Mason, 3 Elliot, Debates at 425-426)

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            • #8
              Just name it Gun Cave Shooting Range and Pig Farm. That will keep them away.
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              • #9
                What’s the difference between a Radical Muslim and the majority of Moderate Muslims (based on publicly available polling).

                Radical Muslims want to kill all Kafirs while a majority of Moderate Muslims are ok with it when Radical Muslims kill Kafirs.

                What’s a Kafir?

                You are.
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                • #10
                  Originally posted by Grandpa1 View Post
                  Just name it Gun Cave Shooting Range and Pig Farm. That will keep them away.
                  Serve breakfast , lunch and dinner with a kitchen smelling of ham and bacon on the grill. And let the Cajun Cur roam behind the counter.
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                  • #11
                    Originally posted by Grandpa1 View Post
                    Just name it Gun Cave Shooting Range and Pig Farm. That will keep them away.
                    And if you name it "Gun Cave Shooting Range, Pig Farm & Science Fair" ....you'll keep out Muslims AND Christians.

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                    • Wing_it
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                      I love ham, BBQ and science. You do realize that as science continues to discover the unknowns they continue to validate the Bible in relation to its natural science related subject matter.

                  • #12
                    The business owner may believe her actions are justified.

                    I would agree with her that her banning anyone based solely upon their religious beliefs may lead to her encountering a very expensive legal battle.

                    The word 'discrimination' would be front and center in the legal filings.

                    Added to the information she is aware of potential legal ramifications. ( Guilty mind/guilty action)
                    Her admitting in writing, that she is not concerned with "the legal problems this descion will likely provoke" may come back to haunt her.
                    Especially when more than not, the court rules on such matters via a financial punishment.
                    Such comments may directly affect the severity of the punishment.

                    Lets reword her house rules, and 'justifications..
                    Anyone who is 'non-white' or 'non Taoist' is not welcome.
                    because of (give any 14 reasons).
                    How do you, the reader, believe any court would rule?

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                    • #13
                      Originally posted by pearlblue1800 View Post
                      The business owner may believe her actions are justified.

                      I would agree with her that her banning anyone based solely upon their religious beliefs may lead to her encountering a very expensive legal battle.

                      The word 'discrimination' would be front and center in the legal filings.

                      Added to the information she is aware of potential legal ramifications. ( Guilty mind/guilty action)
                      Her admitting in writing, that she is not concerned with "the legal problems this descion will likely provoke" may come back to haunt her.
                      Especially when more than not, the court rules on such matters via a financial punishment.
                      Such comments may directly affect the severity of the punishment.

                      Lets reword her house rules, and 'justifications..
                      Anyone who is 'non-white' or 'non Taoist' is not welcome.
                      because of (give any 14 reasons).
                      How do you, the reader, believe any court would rule?
                      She's not doing this because of their race, it's because they are not a religion they are a political belief that uses religion and intimidation to form a restrictive Gov.

                      Lets take this a step farther and say you have some neighbors that don't like what you believe and say they are going to kill you when they get the chance and in the meantime they behead some of your neighbors and say your next, would you still let them come to your house and break bread.

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                      • #14
                        Originally posted by clayusmcret View Post
                        What’s the difference between a Radical Muslim and the majority of Moderate Muslims (based on publicly available polling).

                        Radical Muslims want to kill all Kafirs while a majority of Moderate Muslims are ok with it when Radical Muslims kill Kafirs.

                        What’s a Kafir?

                        You are.
                        You hit the nail on the head

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                        • #15
                          Originally posted by ddubya View Post

                          She's not doing this because of their race, it's because they are not a religion they are a political belief that uses religion and intimidation to form a restrictive Gov.

                          Lets take this a step farther and say you have some neighbors that don't like what you believe and say they are going to kill you when they get the chance and in the meantime they behead some of your neighbors and say your next, would you still let them come to your house and break bread.
                          I was making an analogy, with respect to discrimination.
                          The fact remains, religious based discrimination is a viable option to be a considered as a crux for such litigation.

                          How do you think such a policy would be received if a major retailer posted such? ( Remember publically owned and privately owned corporations are governed by the same laws with respect to discrimination based policies, or allegations of discrimination.). If her business is a sole proprietorship, she may be held personally responsible in any legal actions.
                          The costs in defending against such claims tends to be 'extensive'.

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                          • #16
                            Originally posted by pearlblue1800 View Post

                            I was making an analogy, with respect to discrimination.
                            The fact remains, religious based discrimination is a viable option to be a considered as a crux for such litigation.

                            How do you think such a policy would be received if a major retailer posted such? ( Remember publically owned and privately owned corporations are governed by the same laws with respect to discrimination based policies, or allegations of discrimination.). If her business is a sole proprietorship, she may be held personally responsible in any legal actions.
                            The costs in defending against such claims tends to be 'extensive'.
                            Sure do agree on defending ones self could become expensive. Such a policy by a large retailer probably would not be taken well also, I do see what your saying but I also agree with her opinion on this. I believe there is only a small percentage that you can trust.

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                            • #17
                              God bless her. Not many people are willing to risk there business, and there safety to do what they believe it. I support her 100 present. Good luck Jan. Be safe and enjoy the ride. Larry

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                              • #18
                                She's exercising a woman's right to choose. Who could be against that?

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