Dodge v6 Eco diesel

[Johnharder]

Has anyone bought a Dodge 1500 Eco Diesel?
And how do you like it.......

[Westdc]

I have a old dodge - and I prefer not to be a test pilot for Dodge at todays prices Good luck with your research

[Dr Keghead]

The Ecodiesel engine is built by an Italian company (I think it's a spin-off from Fiat)... run for the hills!

Why not consider a 2015 Ford F150 with the Ecoboost twin turbo V6? I have a 2011 and the power is amazing. The 2015 version has the same drivetrain but it has an aluminum body that weighs 750 pounds less. The mileage figures haven't been released yet but they should be quite good plus you'll have 365 horsepower and 420 pound-feet of torque. The towing capacity is even better than V-8 powered trucks. For comparison, the Ecodiesel has 240 horsepower and the same torque rating.

[Johnharder]

The Ecodiesel engine is built by an Italian company (I think it's a spin-off from Fiat).

Run for the hills!

Actually it's a company owned jointly by GM and Chrysler, so probably Fiat has a hand in it.

[Bucfan11]

The new diesel truck is truck of the year, the only truck to ever make that list two times in a row. That being said, Ram (Dodge) is now owned by Fiat, Fiat really wanted the dealer network.

If buying a full size truck, it will be an American one, Ford or GM.

[Johnharder]

Aren't all the truck MFGRS coming out with some kind of light weight Diesel?

[Bucfan11]

Aren't all the truck MFGRS coming out with some kind of light weight Diesel?

Not that I'm aware of, I assume if the new Ram sells well, others will follow. I do know diesel manufacturers are struggling to make the motors reliable with all the restrictions the EPA has put on them.

[Bucfan11]

the new diesel Ram 1500 full-size pickup truck uses the same 3.0-liter turbodiesel V-6 engine that's fitted to both the Maserati Quattroporte and the new 2014 Maserati Ghibli sedans--in Europe.

EcoDiesel as well--puts out 240 horsepower and a substantial 420 lb-ft of torque. It was developed five years ago by VM Motori, an Italian engine firm now entirely owned by Fiat

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/...e-trivia-today

[alphadog]

Diesel, especially Biodiesel needs additive in the winter, which is expensive. Diesel is smelly if you get any on your hands, clothes, shoes. This diesel uses Def fluid. It doesn't take much to plug up the little fuel filters used on pickups. My Dad had a Ford diesel and he constantly complained how expensive it was to change the oil and filters. I don't think there's enough positive's over a modern gas to go diesel.

[Fatwing]

The Ecodiesel engine is built by an Italian company (I think it's a spin-off from Fiat)... run for the hills!

Why not consider a 2015 Ford F150 with the Ecoboost twin turbo V6? I have a 2011 and the power is amazing. The 2015 version has the same drivetrain but it has an aluminum body that weighs 750 pounds less. The mileage figures haven't been released yet but they should be quite good plus you'll have 365 horsepower and 420 pound-feet of torque. The towing capacity is even better than V-8 powered trucks. For comparison, the Ecodiesel has 240 horsepower and the same torque rating.

The Ecoboosts aren't working anywhere near as good as what they claimed.Fuel mileage isn't even in the ballpark of what they claimed.Not to mention the timing chains and turbos going south already.Most of the techs loose their shirt changing out the chains.I'd take the 5.0 litre V8 (it's getting better mileage in most cases) long before I'd touch anything with a twin turbo.

BTW Buddy got rid of his 2012 GMC and picked up new 2014 Dodge Ram quadcab 4 x 4 with the v6 gas motor.First tank of fuel back and forth to work he got 32 mpg.

[jmohme]

the new diesel Ram 1500 full-size pickup truck uses the same 3.0-liter turbodiesel V-6 engine that's fitted to both the Maserati Quattroporte and the new 2014 Maserati Ghibli sedans--in Europe.

EcoDiesel as well--puts out 240 horsepower and a substantial 420 lb-ft of torque. It was developed five years ago by VM Motori, an Italian engine firm now entirely owned by Fiat

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/...e-trivia-today

I had dealings with VM Motori small industrial diesels in the past. They were't much to brag about before Fiat entered the picture.
I'll stick with my 2006 Dodge/Cummins.

[Johnharder]

Thanks Guys, this is what I'm looking for.
A customer of mine told me yesterday that the F-150 will have a optional diesel for 2015, I hope he wasn't confused with the EcoBoost

[jmohme]

Thanks Guys, this is what I'm looking for.
A customer of mine told me yesterday that the F-150 will have a optional diesel for 2015, I hope he wasn't confused with the EcoBoost

If that is true, it will be interesting to see what they offer.
I had never been impressed with Fords offerings in the diesel pickup market, but when the did cut their ties with International, things started looking better. Hopefully whatever they power the F150 with will be a good engine.
The problem now are with all of the emissions controls. EGR, Diesel particulate filters and DEF all effect reliability, efficiency and the cost of operation.
Once again, I will stick with my old 2006 Dodge.

[Dr Keghead]

BTW Buddy got rid of his 2012 GMC and picked up new 2014 Dodge Ram quadcab 4 x 4 with the v6 gas motor.First tank of fuel back and forth to work he got 32 mpg.

Bull...

[Bucfan11]

BTW Buddy got rid of his 2012 GMC and picked up new 2014 Dodge Ram quadcab 4 x 4 with the v6 gas motor.First tank of fuel back and forth to work he got 32 mpg.

This is what Dodge said the V^ quad cab 4X4 gets: EPA est. MPG

• 16 city/23 hwy

[jmohme]

EPA estimated mileage means nothing to me when it comes to pickups.
I want to know what the mpg is pulling trailer with the aerodynamics of a wall.

[Dr Keghead]

The Ecoboosts aren't working anywhere near as good as what they claimed.Fuel mileage isn't even in the ballpark of what they claimed.

Show me one vehicle that comes close to the advertised mileage... the tests are all done under closely controlled conditions and all of the manufacturers play the game.. Advertised Ecodiesel mileage will be no different.

I'm getting 17.5 - 18.5 mpg around town in my 2011 Supercrew 4wd Ecoboost. My 2003 Supercrew with the 5.4L V8 was lucky to get above 10 mpg under comparable driving, and it had way less power. Drop 750 pounds of vehicle weight (on the 2015 models vs. the 2011 version) and you really have an amazing power to weight ratio.

You also have to look at fuel costs... where I live (New York), diesel is more expensive per gallon. In addition, I don't know about V-6 versions, but V-8 diesels have oil capacities that are twice as big as gas engines... so higher cost per gallon of fuel and twice the cost per oil change are considerations that must be made as well.

And that's before considering that it's an Italian engine...

[Johnharder]

All good points here, Diesel is more expensive and we all know that maintenance is more costly on a Diesel, but the frequency is supposed to be about a quarter of its Gas counterparts.
So if one needs to change oil and filters every 16000 miles compared to every 4000 miles, would there be a benefit to having a Diesel.
I drive about 40,000 miles/ year which equals 2-1/2 oil changes a year@$200.00=$500.00
On a gas truck it would be 10 oil changes /year@$50.00. =$500.00
So really there doesn't seem to be to much of a difference, I always wrestle with the possibility of blowing an injector or a fuel pump which can cost an awfull lot on a Diesel.
Thanks for helping me out on this, I think I'm gonna stay with gas. For now.....

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Bull...

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[Dr Keghead]

Thanks Guys, this is what I'm looking for.
A customer of mine told me yesterday that the F-150 will have a optional diesel for 2015, I hope he wasn't confused with the EcoBoost

No diesel in 2015 F-150. The available engines include a 5.0L (I think) V-8 and two Ecoboosts... the 3.5L like I have and a new 2.7L for people who won't tow anything too heavy.