So is this going to develop into a pattern?

[Lone Ranger]

A pattern that will be dismissed as work place violence, instead of what it truly is. Brace yourselves for a new type of violence.



By Sep. 28, 2014 8:00pm Dave Urbanski A fired Oklahoma City nursing home employee was arrested after a female coworker reported that he threatened to behead her, the Oklahoman said.
Jacob Mugambi Muriithi (Image source: The Oklahoman)

Jacob Mugambi Muriithi, 30, is behind bars on a terrorism complaint, the Oklahoman reported, adding that his bail is set at $1 million.
Muriithi — a native of Kenya who reportedly identified himself as a Muslim — was working with the victim for the first time Sept. 19 at the Bellevue Nursing Home when he made the threats, the arrest warrant affidavit said.
Muriithi told her that he “represented ISIS and that ISIS kills Christians,” the police detective’s affidavit noted.
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The woman said she asked him why they kill Christians and he replied, “This is just what we do,” the detective reported.
“The victim said Jacob asked her what time she got off work and she replied by asking him in a joking manner if he was going to kill her,” the detective wrote. “Jacob told the victim, ‘Yes,’ he was going to cut her head off. The victim asked Jacob what he was going to cut her head off with and he said, ‘A blade,’ then told her after he did it he was going to post it on Facebook.
“The victim said Jacob was serious when speaking and never made any statements that he was joking or playing around.”
The woman reported Muriithi repeated the threat as she left work, saying in front of another employee that he was going to use a blade, the detective reported.

Muriithi was arrested on Friday, the Oklahoman reported, the same day police in Moore disclosed that Alton Nolen beheaded a coworker after he was fired Thursday from Vaughan Foods. Nolen is reportedly a recent convert to Islam.
This story has been updated.

[SMSgt]

And the federal gov wants to take our guns away. What is wring with our country?

[flyerq68]

I would expect so., but remember, islam has nothing to do with it. (sarc off)

[jmohme]

Unfortunately, this pattern has been forming for some time, and the sad part is that far to large a percentage of the population is falling into line with this crap!

[Grandpa1]

After watching and listening to the current administration do things for the last six years and shaking my head in frustration here is what I think may happen.
OSHA will be told to require all employers to mandate all employees, at their own expense, to purchase and wear NECK ARMOR to prevent workplace beheading.

[Kit Carson]

One of my hopes for humanity is when the dust settles from this new, well not new but recently fired up conflict and war caused by religion that humanity will finally throw religion in the trash.

Yes the magic man in the sky demands war, revenge, restitution, and unwavering worship. Religion creates great evil disguised as peace and love.

Hopefully these events will place religion in the pages of history where it belongs.

Meanwhile yes it would be wise to invest in titanium neck wear.

Not sure why anyone is shocked as our leadership allows immigration to demand we follow their ways and to throw away our nation and our heritage.

[jmohme]

One of my hopes for humanity is when the dust settles from this new, well not new but recently fired up conflict and war caused by religion that humanity will finally throw religion in the trash.

Yes the magic man in the sky demands war, revenge, restitution, and unwavering worship. Religion creates great evil disguised as peace and love.

Hopefully these events will place religion in the pages of history where it belongs.

Meanwhile yes it would be wise to invest in titanium neck wear.

Not sure why anyone is shocked as our leadership allows immigration to demand we follow their ways and to throw away our nation and our heritage.

The only problem with what you say is that even if you take religion out of the mix, the same people will just find another reason to fight.

[Kit Carson]

The only problem with what you say is that even if you take religion out of the mix, the same people will just find another reason to fight.

Yes true enough. If one band of monkeys lives on one side of the river, and another band of monkeys lives on the other side and a tree falls so they can cross the river, sooner or later the war of the monkeys is afoot.

Yet if you educate these monkeys and provide them with education and a means to work together due to education and you remove hate, violence and all things spawned by religious demands, there is hope.

Religions of hate do not allow education, it demands no one become educated and demands all accept control.

Education destroys the bracelets of control.

[flyerq68]

Yes true enough. If one band of monkeys lives on one side of the river, and another band of monkeys lives on the other side and a tree falls so they can cross the river, sooner or later the war of the monkeys is afoot.

Yet if you educate these monkeys and provide them with education and a means to work together due to education and you remove hate, violence and all things spawned by religious demands, there is hope.

Religions of hate do not allow education, it demands no one become educated and demands all accept control.

Education destroys the bracelets of control.

Ah yes, in a perfect world where all the people are "smart", there will be no more war. Hogwash, not going to happen as long as man is involved. Education does not remove greed, envy, and hate. Wars have been fought since the beginning of time over territory without religion being any part. Just look how many people communism has killed, certainty no religion there. Were the communist leaders smart, I would think so, just with "different ideas".

[ddubya]

Islamic extremism is a political ideology using religion to achieve their goals.

[alphadog]

Islamic extremism is a political ideology using religion to achieve their goals.

What exactly is their political ideology??

[ddubya]

What exactly is their political ideology??

http://www.e-ir.info/2014/03/03/political-islam-discourse-ideology-and-power/

https://sites.google.com/site/islami...tical-ideology

Islam is an all encompassing ideology that has its own legal, moral, social, military, financial as well as religions codes. (See "Sharia law"). As one Islamic website describes: "Islam is a complete way of life. It impacts every part of life, from eating and sleeping to working and playing. It is not only a personal religion, but also a social one" - putting it mildly.

[Kit Carson]

Ah yes, in a perfect world where all the people are "smart", there will be no more war. Hogwash, not going to happen as long as man is involved. Education does not remove greed, envy, and hate. Wars have been fought since the beginning of time over territory without religion being any part. Just look how many people communism has killed, certainty no religion there. Were the communist leaders smart, I would think so, just with "different ideas".

I think a good way to illustrate being smart is kinda like this. I have enough smarts to know that if I come to steal from you or to harm you, you will fight. This could be detrimental to my well being. So as I do become smart if I want something of yours I will try to buy it. I will not try to steal it. Of course in these things the less smart will always be, of this I do agree. Genetics you see, some still have trouble tying their shoes, hence the invention of slip on shoes. Those of us who do become smart understand that there are consequences to action against others. So we prefer to live and let live, harm no one without just cause and to work for what we have. Personally I have never understood how anyone could do many of the things we see in our society such as a guy the other day shot his entire family, nope I do not understand those things and most likely never will. Oh I can get mad, so mad anyone around best go find a hole, but I would never really harm them unless there is a need to.

Religion on the other hand is simply evil, it demands that all who subscribe to this given philosophy of culture and time to give unwavering homage to an invisible deity that exists only in the mind of those who adopt these philosophies so they will never have to die, yes it is a very powerful form of self hypnosis and allowance of control of self by others. Men who wish to control other men become the voice of this invisible deity and run about telling all great secrets told only to them in secret. This genetic situation of those who wear slip on shoes are gullible enough to believe all of the nonsense and to actually allow it to control their lives and to exact revenge for other men who are the voice of this deity. So the evil of men such as beheading others, becomes the voice of men who define the description of their deity. The deity is the mind of man.

I have found that in serious discussion within this subject that those who support religion have but one option when it comes to Kit. They decide they will kill me to save me. Chuckle. :toast:

[flyerq68]

Kit, I know you are an anti religion zealot, and I agree with you when it comes to mooslims that have gone off the rails. I would not suggest going to war with them in the name of "religion", but rather in the name of survival.

But you still didn't address the issue of non-religious dictators. Would education have enlightened Hitler not to try to wipe out a certain religion, perhaps if only he had some college things would have been different. How about Pol Pot, darn, if only he didn't skip a grade he would have been more educated. Certainly you are not advocating the elimination of the "inferior" gene pool that can't tie their shoes so only the smart ones are left?

History is replete with non-religious dictators killing millions of people in wars and genocide. Keep hoping for you panacea, but I am educated enough to know, it will NEVER happen as long as there are two men alive.

[Retired Army]

Why not label religion philosophe? That way the world can be broken down to the two basic themes, good and evil. Until all subscribe to good philosophes, there will be war.The best out come is good winning out.

[hparsons]

Yes true enough. If one band of monkeys lives on one side of the river, and another band of monkeys lives on the other side and a tree falls so they can cross the river, sooner or later the war of the monkeys is afoot.

Yet if you educate these monkeys and provide them with education and a means to work together due to education and you remove hate, violence and all things spawned by religious demands, there is hope.

Religions of hate do not allow education, it demands no one become educated and demands all accept control.

Education destroys the bracelets of control.

Your fallacy is in assuming that hate and violence are spawned exclusively by "religious demands". You have absolutely 0 proof of that, and the very fact that there are those without religion that still display those traits prove that the assumption is false.

I submit that you've got it backwards. That man's natural hate and violence are what spawn every false religion.

[hparsons]

I think a good way to illustrate being smart is kinda like this. I have enough smarts to know that if I come to steal from you or to harm you, you will fight. This could be detrimental to my well being. So as I do become smart if I want something of yours I will try to buy it. I will not try to steal it. Of course in these things the less smart will always be, of this I do agree. Genetics you see, some still have trouble tying their shoes, hence the invention of slip on shoes. Those of us who do become smart understand that there are consequences to action against others. So we prefer to live and let live, harm no one without just cause and to work for what we have. Personally I have never understood how anyone could do many of the things we see in our society such as a guy the other day shot his entire family, nope I do not understand those things and most likely never will. Oh I can get mad, so mad anyone around best go find a hole, but I would never really harm them unless there is a need to.

Religion on the other hand is simply evil, it demands that all who subscribe to this given philosophy of culture and time to give unwavering homage to an invisible deity that exists only in the mind of those who adopt these philosophies so they will never have to die, yes it is a very powerful form of self hypnosis and allowance of control of self by others. Men who wish to control other men become the voice of this invisible deity and run about telling all great secrets told only to them in secret. This genetic situation of those who wear slip on shoes are gullible enough to believe all of the nonsense and to actually allow it to control their lives and to exact revenge for other men who are the voice of this deity. So the evil of men such as beheading others, becomes the voice of men who define the description of their deity. The deity is the mind of man.

I have found that in serious discussion within this subject that those who support religion have but one option when it comes to Kit. They decide they will kill me to save me. Chuckle. :toast:

Personally, I have as much difficulty understanding why anyone would go out of their way to deliberately be offensive to those who simply believe differently. What harm are those who believe causing you? What justification do you find in pretending that they are "evil" and that they've somehow brought harm to others.

In short, I believe you're "anti-religion" view is as harmful as the "zealot religion" view that you despise so.

[ddubya]

Personally, I have as much difficulty understanding why anyone would go out of their way to deliberately be offensive to those who simply believe differently. What harm are those who believe causing you? What justification do you find in pretending that they are "evil" and that they've somehow brought harm to others.

In short, I believe you're "anti-religion" view is as harmful as the "zealot religion" view that you despise so.

Good for you hparsons I agree. Be careful he'll go after you like he did psalmist. To him all religion and all cops are evil.

[Kit Carson]

Personally, I have as much difficulty understanding why anyone would go out of their way to deliberately be offensive to those who simply believe differently. What harm are those who believe causing you? What justification do you find in pretending that they are "evil" and that they've somehow brought harm to others.

In short, I believe you're "anti-religion" view is as harmful as the "zealot religion" view that you despise so.

Yes I do understand, it does have many by the short hairs. Lol.

A bit of study just a a bit ago about the original subject of this topic in this post shows that the person who did behead an unfortunate poor woman and attack another woman this past week had been trying to convert others to his religion.

In the process of all of this he got canned and returned and took revenge demanded by his religion upon those who would not convert to his religion. I suppose this woman was unfortunate enough to be a personal known contact, unlike the thousands of others following him on his facebook page. It seems a substantial number of women were in association with this nut case.

If this is not evil where a religion demands revenge to a false entity, and controls a person to the point they seek revenge for their false deity then please define the real definition of evil.

So as you ask what harm does religion do to others, hey take a look around you, open your eyes and observe the world. Religion of which has no proof or evidence of any known factual basis other than mind control takes a toll on humanity daily.

From evil such as beheading others to satisfy the blood lust of a deity to conning thousands of good people into financial support of a deity.

This religion has brought the entire world into a conflict that may or may not become quite serious and it is possible the financial strain will cause our nation to only become further degraded in lifestyle. It is an unknown what the long term result may be over this conflict, however its origination has sprung from an insane religion that promotes terrorism and the beheading of others to satisfy the blood lust of a false deity.

Yes look around at the world, with open eyes not blinded by the wish to be controlled and see where beheading, war, and terrorist acts originate.

Yes if this is not evil and if this is not harming others, please explain how it is nice and does no harm and provides only peace and love.

Cheers.

[Kit Carson]

Good for you hparsons I agree. Be careful he'll go after you like he did psalmist. To him all religion and all cops are evil.

Why shame on you, Lol.

Go after someone, oh not so. I do however refuse to allow others to control me and this does cause them to get all upset, have to run to the store and buy some Tums and soon they begin to wish to punish me to save me. In the process they only show their own ways. It is all very interesting actually and one does learn a great deal about the human race.

Now many do come after the one called Kit, as he contests with them using simple common sense and intelligence for as they do run short of answers then some means must be found to gain control...........eh?

Evil pops up its head time and time again just as it has begun in this thread as the contestants once again rally to use any means possible to control the one who will not be controlled. When men cannot control another they do tend to band together to defeat the one who will not be controlled, and conduct many acts of evil while singing the song of peace. A rally does begin to demand that all believe or ..............as Islam does if you do not believe they just chop off your head. Or kill your entire family. Or your entire village. Sounds quite familiar to me. All of the big three demand these actions to keep their deity pacified.

I am just a man who demands proof and evidence and becomes sick to the stomach at the evils produced by false beliefs in imaginary deity.

This entire recent conflict of war has been brought upon the world by an insane religious belief. A belief that demands revenge and retribution upon all who will not accept it. A belief that demands blood lust to satisfy a man made deity . It demands genocide and beheading of all who will not convert to this belief. Like all of the big three spawned in the sands of the dessert it uses violence and hate to create fear to control others. A fear created by man to control man, a belief created by man and called a supreme deity.

Of course they are all about the same, these major big three spawned in the desert by the same son of BigFoot.

The major difference between the United States, Britain and a few others and the Islamic nations is that we have fortunately became educated to the point we do know that a person having an epileptic seizure is not possessed by an evil demon.

So education says, go see the Doctor and use whatever means that may actually help, rather than some belief that demands if you do not believe we will just chop off your head.

Cheers..........let er rip.

[bbalzer]

I know you don't care, but I really feel sorry for you.