Oklahoma shooting

[Lone Ranger]

With all the business policies of no firearms on premises by employees, this is one instance where a firearm terminated the mayhem and killing.

"How was Nolan stopped? Turns out the chief operating officer of Vaughn Foods is also a reserve sheriff’s deputy and had his gun with him at work. He shot Nolen, which ended the attack. (Nolen’s in the hospital but is expected to survive, so cops will soon have an idea of motive straight from the horse’s mouth.) “This was not going to stop if he didn’t stop it,” said one cop of the COO’s heroism. “It could have gotten a lot worse.”

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/09/26/oklahoma-woman-beheaded-in-workplace-attack-by-man-who-had-allegedly-tried-to-convert-co-workers-to-islam/

[bbalzer]

It's unfortunate he survived.
My guess he won't survive prison long if he ever even goes to prison. Likely get off on mental problem.

[Rick S]

He also had concealed carry permit. I am so sick of this so called religion. My question is where are the voice of the normal believers. To me it speaks volumes about the sham religon.

[Cruiseman]

Not just concealed carry, he is a reserve deputy. As more American heads roll and our blood fills the streets of our towns, the gun control advocates are going to have a tough sell. It is very comforting knowing that our Dept. of Homeland Security is launching an aggressive climate change campaign (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014...-junk-science/). A government that cannot secure a border, or find a 777, is going to control the climate of the Earth. This is what our government is concerned about.

[Lone Ranger]

Not just concealed carry, he is a reserve deputy. As more American heads roll and our blood fills the streets of our towns, the gun control advocates are going to have a tough sell. It is very comforting knowing that our Dept. of Homeland Security is launching an aggressive climate change campaign (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014...-junk-science/). A government that cannot secure a border, or find a 777, is going to control the climate of the Earth. This is what our government is concerned about.

Maybe DHS plans on reviewing wave height and wind speed and plans to build sea walls along coastal towns/cities. (We need a "I don't know" shrug icon.)

[alphadog]

Is there any "Moderate" Muslims protesting the "radical extremists" hijacking their "peaceful" religion?? I figured Dearborn, MI would be in the news with thousands taking to the streets with indignation,,,

[jmohme]

It's unfortunate he survived.
My guess he won't survive prison long if he ever even goes to prison. Likely get off on mental problem.

I disagree. I think he needs to clarify why he did what he did, and he can't do that if he's dead.
Also, if he had been killed, the media likely would have twisted the whole story around to fit an agenda, and they may still do it anyway.

[Rick S]

Probably the national media but the okc media is all over the connection. Oklahoma has little tolerance for this crap especially after the okc bombings by the other idiot.

[bbalzer]

I in turn disagree. We will not learn any more "truth" from him. He will NEVER get what he deserves in our liberal society. We in turn will land up spending millions$$$ on this scumbag that should have ended with a dollar bullet. Swift fatal judgement needs to be dealt in this country if we ever have a hope of turning the tide. It makes me sick when everyone has to refer to this murderer as a "suspect"! We as a nation are sick for letting this go on.

[Cruiseman]

All I heard from the local Muslim cleric was a warning to his flock about possible revenge attacks. I did not hear anything that sounded like a condemnation of the act.

[clayusmcret]

All I heard from the local Muslim cleric was a warning to his flock about possible revenge attacks. I did not hear anything that sounded like a condemnation of the act.

Nor will you. What’s the difference between a Radical Muslim and most Moderate Muslims? Radical Muslims want to kill all Kafirs. And most Moderate Muslims are ok with it when Radical Muslims kill Kafirs. What’s a Kafir? You are.

[Cruiseman]

I fear that if our civilization is to survive, we are going to need a really strong President who is not afraid to stand up to this threat. If the people we have in charge now were in charge in the 40's, we would all be speaking German right now. Evil is not something you can negotiate with, it must be destroyed. I am getting tired of all the images of bombs dropping on empty parking garages.

If someone wants to be a shoe in for President in 2016 all they have to do is show some backbone. I am not sure I see anyone on the horizon from either party that fits the bill.

[530ktm]

Could we get Ted Nugent to run for office?

[clayusmcret]

It's not going to be for some time. "Don’t you dare “…try and paint all of Islam with the same brush!”

http://ulstermanbooks.com/d-c-whispers-barack-obamas-outraged-tantrum-military-briefing/

[clayusmcret]

I fear that if our civilization is to survive, we are going to need a really strong President who is not afraid to stand up to this threat. If the people we have in charge now were in charge in the 40's, we would all be speaking German right now. Evil is not something you can negotiate with, it must be destroyed. I am getting tired of all the images of bombs dropping on empty parking garages.

If someone wants to be a shoe in for President in 2016 all they have to do is show some backbone. I am not sure I see anyone on the horizon from either party that fits the bill.

And to the highlighted comment, there's another DC Whisperer of interest.

http://ulstermanbooks.com/d-c-whispe...youre-exposed/

(I received these via a retired military distro this morning.)

[flyerq68]

Nor will you. What’s the difference between a Radical Muslim and most Moderate Muslims? Radical Muslims want to kill all Kafirs. And most Moderate Muslims are ok with it when Radical Muslims kill Kafirs. What’s a Kafir? You are.

That is the best, most succinct definition I've heard yet.

[Kit Carson]

All I heard from the local Muslim cleric was a warning to his flock about possible revenge attacks. I did not hear anything that sounded like a condemnation of the act.

And you will not hear of any condemnation. This religion of theirs demands that all infidels, outsiders, Kafirs, be eliminated. It is a sure way to heaven and virgins to commit these violent acts against those who deny supremacy to this make believe god. As for the moderates they dare not protest against the writings in their holy book as this will send them to banishment and they will not receive any virgins.

It is a terrible thing to do as this mentally controlled maniac did to these women, you and I and most normal people find it an atrocity, one that causes one to take a very deep breath. We will defend ourselves and our own and those around us if we can but we certainly do not entertain any though of such a terrible act against another.

Not sure whether to say fortunately an armed citizen put the stops to it, as there is certainly nothing at all fortunate about these things. They are a result of ignorance, and control by religion.

[Cruiseman]

I fear that this is only the beginning. Nature attacks weakness, and our culture, country and "leadership" are weak. They cut off our heads and we respond by bombing empty buildings.

You are either imposing your will on the enemy, or your enemy is imposing his will on you.

For now, America has accepted the idea of having the enemy impose his will on us.

[ddubya]

Concerning the presidents views on Islam he was brought up in Indonesia where he went to school till he was 12 and then went back to Hawaii. What do you think they teach in Indonesian schools. The teachings of the Koran was imprinted in his head from a very young age until he was 12. Why do you think he said the most beautiful sound he's heard is the Muslim call to prayer.

He was trying to show the Muslim world that he was one of them and thinking it would help and it didn't they took him as weak.

[remphoto]

Interesting that the MSM choose to use the pre-conversion photo of this terrorist. How about a more recent one from his Facebook page?

[Lone Ranger]

Look for gov and gov run MSM to classify these types of killings as "work place violence", as was the case with Major Hassan, in order to deny, deflect and redirect that these killings have anything to do with radical Islamic terrorism on U.S. soil, or that terrorism is even taking place on U.S. As much as the Boston bombers were not part of a larger group affiliation, they were nonetheless radical Islamics and the gov nor gov run MSM could not spin the event differently.

If you carry, carry as much as possible. If you don't need to use your sidearm fine, but if there is a need for it you will at least not regret not having it. The CFO/LEO in OK is a prime example. Since I know I cannot depend on law enforcement to protect myself and my family when outside the home, I have no alternative but to do what they cannot. Sad times we live in.

[hparsons]

With all the business policies of no firearms on premises by employees, this is one instance where a firearm terminated the mayhem and killing.

"How was Nolan stopped? Turns out the chief operating officer of Vaughn Foods is also a reserve sheriff’s deputy and had his gun with him at work. He shot Nolen, which ended the attack. (Nolen’s in the hospital but is expected to survive, so cops will soon have an idea of motive straight from the horse’s mouth.) “This was not going to stop if he didn’t stop it,” said one cop of the COO’s heroism. “It could have gotten a lot worse.”

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/09/26/oklahoma-woman-beheaded-in-workplace-attack-by-man-who-had-allegedly-tried-to-convert-co-workers-to-islam/

From time to time I see stupid anti-gun "statistics" where they claim there are very view instances where a civilian used a gun to stop a mass killing - completely overlooking the fact that if someone is determined to kill as many people as he can, and is stopped at 1 or 2 by an armed citizen, that was a mass killing that was averted.

If I'm ever forced to use mine, I don't plan on waiting for the bad guy to turn it into a mass-killing.

[Grandpa1]

My wife came in the living room after taking a shower and she had a towel wrapped around her head. I had my living room pistol pointed at her instantly. I told her to not wear a towel around her head.
Can't be to careful anymore.